Tekken storyline

[Jin_Kazuya420]

I love how he calls me a jin fanboy and yet he mentions ogre 25/7 the extra hr is him jacking off to Ogres green body and how he wants ogres D in his mouth give me a break on the fanboy BS Jin deserves the praise I give him WTF Has ogre done except be a bitch that got pwned by Jin and withiut unlocking his devilish potential yet so take rhat anti Jin talk someqhere else you Ogre D sucking mook

[Kyo]

Aug 22, 2013 20:46:15 GMT Jin_Kazuya420 said:

I love how he calls me a jin fanboy and yet he mentions ogre 25/7 the extra hr is him jacking off to Ogres green body and how he wants ogres D in his mouth give me a break on the fanboy BS Jin deserves the praise I give him WTF Has ogre done except be a bitch that got pwned by Jin and withiut unlocking his devilish potential yet so take rhat anti Jin talk someqhere else you Ogre D sucking mook

First off, I don't fanboy over ogre, are you serious?

Second that was gay.

Third please use that phones auto correct. That statement have my eyes cancer.

Fourth I'm not anti jin. Jin was my favorite character as far as character development, But after 6 he was this cliche anime power hungry emo fuck, who I just could not stand. If you noticed I wanted to main jin in the very beginning but dropped him because I was bad with him. But that was 2 years ago,

Fifth ogre is what brought jin in the game. LOL If it wasn't for ogre, jin would have no purpose.

[JamesChappell]

well, thats enough of forum surfing for me...
 

[Jin_Kazuya420]

Lol Ogre isn't that important they would've found another way to put Jin in Tekken. Also you boast about ogre alot on PSN and I mean alot! If Jin was your favorite you wouldn't have dropped him due to you not being good with him I dedicared myself to learning Jin and his moveset on T5 and I can say that I am pleased with my gameplay with him. Also Jin is more of a boss in T6 than he ever was before. He doesn't act emo at all in T6 he was more emo in T5 he actually apologizes to ppl when he kicked their azs in T6 he calls ppl a joke or pitiful when he kicks their ass how is that emo?

[Grandmthethird]

Aug 23, 2013 1:17:30 GMT Jin_Kazuya420 said:

Lol Ogre isn't that important they would've found another way to put Jin in Tekken. Also you boast about ogre alot on PSN and I mean alot! If Jin was your favorite you wouldn't have dropped him due to you not being good with him I dedicared myself to learning Jin and his moveset on T5 and I can say that I am pleased with my gameplay with him. Also Jin is more of a boss in T6 than he ever was before. He doesn't act emo at all in T6 he was more emo in T5 he actually apologizes to ppl when he kicked their azs in T6 he calls ppl a joke or pitiful when he kicks their ass how is that emo?

this is not true mate. Heihachi is my favorite, and I don't play him cause I'm not the best with him

[Kyo]

Aug 23, 2013 1:17:30 GMT Jin_Kazuya420 said:

Lol Ogre isn't that important they would've found another way to put Jin in Tekken. Also you boast about ogre alot on PSN and I mean alot! If Jin was your favorite you wouldn't have dropped him due to you not being good with him I dedicared myself to learning Jin and his moveset on T5 and I can say that I am pleased with my gameplay with him. Also Jin is more of a boss in T6 than he ever was before. He doesn't act emo at all in T6 he was more emo in T5 he actually apologizes to ppl when he kicked their azs in T6 he calls ppl a joke or pitiful when he kicks their ass how is that emo?

Lol, no.

Jin was pure T emo in T6. In T5 jin was confused, and was trying to fine his alignment. I'm T6, jin started war, caused chaos, bombed a church and committed suicide. Just to end a power struggle within his own body. Typical cliche anime guy who pursed power and when he got it, lost control.

I quit jin after T6. I was terrible with him. I did the same two combos per match, and I didn't have the will to learn him.

I got serious in ttt2, then realized how bad jin was. Dvj is so much better...

But that's besides the point. Jin was my favorite I used him till T6, then dropped him. If I ever play an incantation of jin it will be devil jin.

Finally, I'm a fan of ogre yes. He's my new favorite character yes. I'm still not fan girling over him like you are jin -_-. I talk about ogre in terms of play style and moves cause... Well he's my main. You bring up everything I talk about then slap a penis in front of it, then call me gay :/

[Jin_Kazuya420]

Lol no you are wayy wrong on that. He didn't commit suicide he stopped azazel from fully emerging hence why he jumped in that vortex shit he made the choixe to try to do a goodthing by sestroying him and he did all that shit to have a war with kaz to draw azazel out. And what you talking about I dont fangirl ogre -_- well what else am I supposed to do when you so gay XD

[Moose]

Jin has been the main character since he came in. That, and Ogre was just a stepping stone tbh. Jin was introduced as the force of good against 2 battling evils. It's not about wanting the D. Jin is an important character regardless. Elaborate more on your idea and stop fussing.

[Kyo]

Aug 23, 2013 7:22:10 GMT Moose said:

Jin has been the main character since he came in. That, and Ogre was just a stepping stone tbh. Jin was introduced as the force of good against 2 battling evils. It's not about wanting the D. Jin is an important character regardless. Elaborate more on your idea and stop fussing.

Without ogre there would be no jin. Jins entire life philosophy is based on ogres existence. Try and prove me wrong, I will counteract each statement.

And if ogre wasn't in the game they would have found someone just like ogre with the exact same purpose just a different name. Jin needs ogre just as ogre needed jin. The devil within had a decent storyline IMO, and everyone should play it.

[Grandmthethird]

Aug 23, 2013 18:38:29 GMT Kyo said:

Aug 23, 2013 7:22:10 GMT Moose said:

Jin has been the main character since he came in. That, and Ogre was just a stepping stone tbh. Jin was introduced as the force of good against 2 battling evils. It's not about wanting the D. Jin is an important character regardless. Elaborate more on your idea and stop fussing.

Without ogre there would be no jin. Jins entire life philosophy is based on ogres existence. Try and prove me wrong, I will counteract each statement.

And if ogre wasn't in the game they would have found someone just like ogre with the exact same purpose just a different name. Jin needs ogre just as ogre needed jin. The devil within had a decent storyline IMO, and everyone should play it.

Jin's Tekken existence is defined by his feud with Heihachi and Kazuya, Jin and Ogre was one game T3. (TTT and TTT2 don't count)  Jin vs Mishimas has been three games T4, T5 and T6. 

[Kyo]

Aug 23, 2013 18:46:14 GMT Grandmthethird said:

Aug 23, 2013 18:38:29 GMT Kyo said:

Without ogre there would be no jin. Jins entire life philosophy is based on ogres existence. Try and prove me wrong, I will counteract each statement.

And if ogre wasn't in the game they would have found someone just like ogre with the exact same purpose just a different name. Jin needs ogre just as ogre needed jin. The devil within had a decent storyline IMO, and everyone should play it.

Jin's Tekken existence is defined by his feud with Heihachi and Kazuya, Jin and Ogre was one game T3. (TTT and TTT2 don't count)  Jin vs Mishimas has been three games T4, T5 and T6. 

Jins "feud" was caused by heihachi a betrayal after jin killed ogre. Because jin had killed ogre, heihachi had no use for him. If heihachi had succeeded in his efforts, or if ogre hadn't existed in the first place, tekken would be in a much different place then some endless power struggle over the devil gene. Jun wouldn't be dead, jin wouldn't be in the game, kazuya would have come back regardless and heihachi would be still trying to gain power in some way or form.

[Grandmthethird]

Aug 23, 2013 19:02:06 GMT Kyo said:

Aug 23, 2013 18:46:14 GMT Grandmthethird said:

Jin's Tekken existence is defined by his feud with Heihachi and Kazuya, Jin and Ogre was one game T3. (TTT and TTT2 don't count)  Jin vs Mishimas has been three games T4, T5 and T6. 

Jins "feud" was caused by heihachi a betrayal after jin killed ogre. Because jin had killed ogre, heihachi had no use for him. If heihachi had succeeded in his efforts, or if ogre hadn't existed in the first place, tekken would be in a much different place then some endless power struggle over the devil gene. Jun wouldn't be dead, jin wouldn't be in the game, kazuya would have come back regardless and heihachi would be still trying to gain power in some way or form.

T1 Heihachi
T2 Devel/Devil Kazuya
T3 True Ogre
T4 Heihachi
T5 Jinpachi
T6 Azazel

As far as the story of Tekken goes Ogre has a very small part. I'm not saying his part isn't important but it is small. Sure he plays a part in Jin's story but again a small part. The Mishima family as a whole play a much bigger role in the Jin's purpose of being in Tekken. After T3 Jin could ave disappeared, but he didn't he came back to put a stop his evil family and hes been doing it ever since. Did beating Ogre put him on this path, yes, but this is only cause the writers needed a reason to turn Jin against Heihachi. Ogre is nothing more than a plot device. the ultimate goal was always Jin vs Mishimas and they could have used any plot device to do this it just so happens they used Ogre

Without Jin there wouldn't be an Ogre, but without Ogre there was always going to be a Jin. i'm not a Jin fanboi, so take this from a neutral point of view

[HakuryuVision]

Aug 22, 2013 2:50:53 GMT Kyo said:

Aug 22, 2013 2:18:23 GMT Moose said:

I like the attempt, but getting this deep into a fighting game's story is dancing with disappointment. I don't think I've seen a fighting game with a well thought out story. If I had to rank the stories it would be....

Soul Calibur
Mortal Kombat
Tekken
Street Fighter
Marvel vs Capcom

They're taking characters from seperate countries, or worlds in MVC's case, and trying to have a reason to gather all of them in one place. They take 40 characters, and intertwine them together at random with generic backstories. That, and the stories will be jank just to keep characters around (Wang has died, so has Baek, etc.).

Tbh everything after 4 was a disappointment. Harada knows it and so do fans. I figure what's tekken got to lose? The only way tekken can face a major decline in sales is removing bound IMO.

A good storyline is what drew people into tekken in the first place. The bad ass characters, family betray and a power struggle made tekken what it is today.  Tekken needs this chance for a storyline reboot.

if bounds gone, I'm quitting tekken.

Sorry, but that's absolute nonsense.
Tekken's story started getting good from Tekken 4 onwards.
Before that, it was a very wacky , vague, and random story.

The only way to "expirience" the story in Tekken 1-3 was by reading the manuals (and they were as interesting and complex as a twilight novel). There wasn't any way to find out what happened story-wise ingame.
Even the endings didn't tell much about the story.

From Tekken 4 onwards we got the most interesting and engaging prologues, epilogues, and really well done endings. Even silly characters like friggin' Kuma had really cool stories.
Take Yoshimitsu for example:




In Tekken 3 we got this nonsense instead:

-Yeah. Giant rat. Cool. T__T

Also, thanks to the bound, combos & juggles got much more complex and balanced out.
Before bounds, high damaging combos were really easy to pull of.



^ Two of those combos 90-100 damage combos, and you're K.O.
(ignore the last ones in both vids, they only work on true ogre when he resets in mid air)
Back when my friends played Tekken 2 and 3, and wanted me to play with them, i always picked Heihachi and did a 80-damage juggle.
My friends called it "cheating". >3>

Or even worse, DEATH-COMBOS.

Removing bounds would be nonsensical. Sure, there still are high damaging combos. But they are much harder to pull off, and more unsafe.
( + In Tekken Tag 2 you have TWO characters. When to tag out, and healing your red life bar are even MORE elements that deepen the strategical side of Tekken)

I do agree that Tekken 6 had a weak story (probably because they put all their efforts into that campaign mode, where the story was all about Lars & Alisa), but overall the story-telling improved from Tekken 4.
No offense Kyo, but Harada doesn't think what you just said, just some fans who can't take off their nostalgia goggles.

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I wonder what would happen to Heihachi? Will it be young Heihachi from TTT2 or would it be old Heihachi? I'm also interested in a Leo/Steve storyline since they involve the Mishimas and Emma Kliesen and Leo and Steve are a few of my favourites.

[Grandmthethird]

Aug 24, 2013 12:10:46 GMT @lightzxiii said:

I wonder what would happen to Heihachi? Will it be young Heihachi from TTT2 or would it be old Heihachi? I'm also interested in a Leo/Steve storyline since they involve the Mishimas and Emma Kliesen and Leo and Steve are a few of my favourites.

the voice actor that played old Heihachi died. So he will probably be young

[Deleted]

Aug 24, 2013 12:21:28 GMT Grandmthethird said:

Aug 24, 2013 12:10:46 GMT @lightzxiii said:

I wonder what would happen to Heihachi? Will it be young Heihachi from TTT2 or would it be old Heihachi? I'm also interested in a Leo/Steve storyline since they involve the Mishimas and Emma Kliesen and Leo and Steve are a few of my favourites.

the voice actor that played old Heihachi died. So he will probably be young

But the new voice actor played old Heihachi in SFxT and I think he played him in the movie.

[Grandmthethird]

Aug 24, 2013 12:29:49 GMT @lightzxiii said:

Aug 24, 2013 12:21:28 GMT Grandmthethird said:

the voice actor that played old Heihachi died. So he will probably be young

But the new voice actor played old Heihachi in SFxT and I think he played him in the movie.

Heihachi's voice actor died Jan 2010 and SFxT came out in March 2012. So yes you're probably right the the voice was probably done by the new actor, unless he had already recorded it before he died, or they used old voice samples. But it seems more likely that the new actor did it. But i do remember Harada saying Heihachi is young in TTT2 because its a new actor. Maybe he wasn't happy with the voice in SFxT, but that's not his game so he couldn't do anything about it.

It sounded fine to me in SFxT, but all Japanese sounds the same to me.