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Post by 50percentelf on Aug 7, 2013 19:27:06 GMT
Your saying most characters get 100+ without wall off of most of their launchers.
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Post by Jac on Aug 7, 2013 19:34:51 GMT
Your saying most characters get 100+ without wall off of most of their launchers. A respectable amount. Mishima combo's ranging from 90- 100 in solo isn't exactly easy you know? A strong assist character would be needed for other chars to reach 100. |
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Post by dragonarse1 on Aug 7, 2013 19:45:47 GMT
Mishimas require stronger fundamentals than the other characters.
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Post by 50percentelf on Aug 7, 2013 19:56:20 GMT
Your saying most characters get 100+ without wall off of most of their launchers. A respectable amount. Mishima combo's ranging from 90- 100 in solo isn't exactly easy you know? A strong assist character would be needed for other chars to reach 100. I'm not saying its easy. A character being easy doesnt make them top tier. |
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Post by Moose on Aug 7, 2013 20:01:37 GMT
Feng can hit 96 by himself without walls off of f+3, 4. That's from a guy who's best juggle filler is df1. >.>
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Post by xxTakeshi on Aug 7, 2013 20:10:36 GMT
Misimas are not OP. Mishima players have to know the character extremely well to stand a chance. Take Kazuya for example, yes he can rip out extreme combos and he has the best launcher in the game. However, most of his moves are unsafe and he only gets big rewards after a high risk play. Also it's a lot harder to sidestep a move and punish with an EWGF than it is to use a standard launch. Further more, Mishima characters don't have a large amount of strings to keep the opponent guessing, they know you want to EWGF, the task is how do you hit them with it despite this. Honestly if I get dumped by a Mishima I applaud the player as I was the the one who made the mistakes and got hit by hellsweeps, ff+3 and EWGF mix ups. As for Lars, well he sucks in TTT2 compared to T6 lars so forget about him  . As for Jinpachi, I like him and his EWGF is hilarious to use. I don't mind calling Jinpachi a Mishima because he tries, but Lars is just the problem child xD. That is definitely one of the better assessments of Mishima characters. I consider them high risk, high reward. |
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Post by 50percentelf on Aug 7, 2013 23:16:02 GMT
I definitely think you guys are basing your Mishima experience off of American players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 15:39:16 GMT
I thought kazuya had the fastest ewgf. Yes he does. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 15:42:41 GMT
I definitely think you guys are basing your Mishima experience off of American players. American Players ? Knee and JDCR are Korean, yes Mishimas are powerful but Tekken is about that family, they are the only characters with a good storyline. Bob is just as powerful, and is cheap just like Law and the capos. I will not include Paul because he has no real good launchers or combos. Jin and Lars are underpowered btw, thought I would add that. |
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Post by 50percentelf on Aug 8, 2013 15:44:04 GMT
I definitely think you guys are basing your Mishima experience off of American players. American Players ? Knee and JDCR are Korean, yes Mishimas are powerful but Tekken is about that family, they are the only characters with a good storyline. Bob is just as powerful, and is cheap just like Law and the capos. I will not include Paul because he has no real good launchers or combos. Jin and Lars are underpowered btw, thought I would add that. I'm perfectly aware of the nationality of jdcr and knee. The guys in this thread are trying to say because mishimas are harder to use that they aren't top tier -_-". |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 15:47:57 GMT
American Players ? Knee and JDCR are Korean, yes Mishimas are powerful but Tekken is about that family, they are the only characters with a good storyline. Bob is just as powerful, and is cheap just like Law and the capos. I will not include Paul because he has no real good launchers or combos. Jin and Lars are underpowered btw, thought I would add that. I'm perfectly aware of the nationality of jdcr and knee. The guys in this thread are trying to say because mishimas are harder to use that they aren't top tier -_-". Wtf, the MISHIMAS are S-TIER, how can they say that, Mishimas are top tier people. Apart from Jin. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 15:48:49 GMT
I'm perfectly aware of the nationality of jdcr and knee. The guys in this thread are trying to say because mishimas are harder to use that they aren't top tier -_-". Wtf, the MISHIMAS are S-TIER, how can they say that, Mishimas are top tier people. Apart from Jin. The only other characters that can rival the Mishimas are, Nina,Leo,Bruce and Lars, and Maybe Bob. |
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Post by 50percentelf on Aug 8, 2013 15:57:02 GMT
Wtf, the MISHIMAS are S-TIER, how can they say that, Mishimas are top tier people. Apart from Jin. The only other characters that can rival the Mishimas are, Nina,Leo,Bruce and Lars, and Maybe Bob. fortunately we play a game where all characters have their own quirks and are relatively balanced. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 15:58:53 GMT
The only other characters that can rival the Mishimas are, Nina,Leo,Bruce and Lars, and Maybe Bob. fortunately we play a game where all characters have their own quirks and are relatively balanced. Agreed |
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Post by dragonarse1 on Aug 8, 2013 15:59:38 GMT
American Players ? Knee and JDCR are Korean, yes Mishimas are powerful but Tekken is about that family, they are the only characters with a good storyline. Bob is just as powerful, and is cheap just like Law and the capos. I will not include Paul because he has no real good launchers or combos. Jin and Lars are underpowered btw, thought I would add that. I'm perfectly aware of the nationality of jdcr and knee. The guys in this thread are trying to say because mishimas are harder to use that they aren't top tier -_-". No one said that, we are dispelling the belief that Mishimas are OP. Being top tier doesn't make a character OP. Just look at the final of EVO. An Ogre/Jinpachi team? They aren't OP yet the player got to the final. The fact that they are hard to use makes the argument of people calling for nerfs because of how good they are invalid. Look at Bruce, easy enough to use, S-tier. Nerf Bruce |
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Post by Jac on Aug 8, 2013 16:30:06 GMT
They have had the same options in Tekken 6 with a few buffs and all of a sudden they are viewed as OP because of tier change.. Sense?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 16:31:27 GMT
I'm perfectly aware of the nationality of jdcr and knee. The guys in this thread are trying to say because mishimas are harder to use that they aren't top tier -_-". No one said that, we are dispelling the belief that Mishimas are OP. Being top tier doesn't make a character OP. Just look at the final of EVO. An Ogre/Jinpachi team? They aren't OP yet the player got to the final. The fact that they are hard to use makes the argument of people calling for nerfs because of how good they are invalid. Look at Bruce, easy enough to use, S-tier. Nerf Bruce Bruce is cheap as f*ck. I managed to get Kaz to duelist a while ago, using Bruce's stupid OP Launchers, That Hop kick and powerful lows. True ogre is bottom tier yet, as you said bro some guy did well at evo using him, I think Mishimas are top tier, but Not OP. |
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Post by dragonarse1 on Aug 8, 2013 16:44:54 GMT
No one said that, we are dispelling the belief that Mishimas are OP. Being top tier doesn't make a character OP. Just look at the final of EVO. An Ogre/Jinpachi team? They aren't OP yet the player got to the final. The fact that they are hard to use makes the argument of people calling for nerfs because of how good they are invalid. Look at Bruce, easy enough to use, S-tier. Nerf Bruce Bruce is cheap as f*ck. I managed to get Kaz to duelist a while ago, using Bruce's stupid OP Launchers, That Hop kick and powerful lows. True ogre is bottom tier yet, as you said bro some guy did well at evo using him, I think Mishimas are top tier, but Not OP. Bruce has Godly range too and good luck trying to counter him (dem elbows). Bruce is amazing, as is Nina. Calling Mishima's OP is far from a valid statement. Yes they have amazing potential when used correctly, but NO ONE in Tekken is OP.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2013 16:48:33 GMT
Bruce is cheap as f*ck. I managed to get Kaz to duelist a while ago, using Bruce's stupid OP Launchers, That Hop kick and powerful lows. True ogre is bottom tier yet, as you said bro some guy did well at evo using him, I think Mishimas are top tier, but Not OP. Bruce has Godly range too and good luck trying to counter him (dem elbows). Bruce is amazing, as is Nina. Calling Mishima's OP is far from a valid statement. Yes they have amazing potential when used correctly, but NO ONE in Tekken is OP. Bob and Law are overpowered, Capos, Zafina, Lili and Baek are cheap. Paul needs a buff. |
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Post by Grandmthethird on Aug 9, 2013 2:02:09 GMT
When you guys see a Capo, Lili or Zafina player, what is the first thought you have? Mine is "this guy has picked the cheapest character on the roster, looking for easy wins" Is this anyone else's thoughts.
When I see Mishimas I think "this guy is a tier whore, picking OP characters looking for an easy win"
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. As for Jinpachi, I like him and his EWGF is hilarious to use. I don't mind calling Jinpachi a Mishima because he tries, but Lars is just the problem child xD.
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